Second Thoughts | Courage to Connect: Embracing Vulnerability
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The Cost of Indifference Series Episode 10
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What sparks your curiosity to care for others? In this engaging conversation on "Journey With Care," hosts Wendi Park and Johan Heinrichs delve into the role of curiosity as a catalyst for community care. Through heartfelt narratives and their dialogue with Emily, they uncover how curiosity can foster genuine connections and inspire transformative acts of service. By analyzing personal experiences and addressing barriers like fear, they challenge listeners to step out of comfort zones and embrace a life of meaningful engagement with their community. This discussion not only emphasizes the impact of living curiously and intentionally but also encourages embracing every opportunity to grow and serve others with purpose.
Time Stamps
[06:13] Curiosity Sparks Connection in Outreach
[07:24] "What Kills Our Curiosity?"
[12:53] "Faith and Personal Growth Encounters"
[15:30] "Church Outreach: Clubbing with a Twist"
[20:31] "Invitation to Action in Solidarity"
[23:11] Reflect, Notice, Trust God
[24:27] Care Lingo: Radical Hospitality
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Transcript
That curiosity to lean in and to do something different,
Speaker:it it's exactly what you were saying, Johan. I think it's all that sense of
Speaker:control, and there is a thing that we need to pay attention to on our
Speaker:dashboard, that lordship. We might
Speaker:love God in concepts, but are we letting him to be
Speaker:the Lord of our life? Are we releasing that control, not my
Speaker:will, but yours? Even Jesus prayed that prayer.
Speaker:This is Journey with Care, a podcast by Care Impact, where curious
Speaker:Canadians find inspiration to love others well through real life
Speaker:stories and honest conversations.
Speaker:Alright. We are in another second thoughts episode. We are coming off
Speaker:our episode with Emily, and I'm not even gonna
Speaker:try to pronounce her last name with you. Dimitrio. Dimitrio. Although,
Speaker:to be fair, she said, I'm not even sure if that's how it's supposed to
Speaker:be pronounced. So she didn't know how to pronounce her own name. So well, she
Speaker:did have a lot of good insights even if she didn't have insight into her
Speaker:own name. Yeah. Well, would you know how to say your
Speaker:authentic family name in the origin
Speaker:language, I wonder? Well, I I looked up my last name a little
Speaker:bit, and Try me. I've turned plural. I've come
Speaker:to find out. It's supposed to be Heinrich. It's supposed to be Heinrich.
Speaker:I've had lots of weird people pronounce it Heinrichs. That one drives me
Speaker:crazy because I I don't smell. In fact, my wife says I never
Speaker:smell. So that doesn't that doesn't really
Speaker:match my my name. But, you know, throughout time in history,
Speaker:people say, I'm gonna go to the Heinrich house. It didn't sound as good, so
Speaker:let's say Heinrichs because it's plural. And I think that's probably where
Speaker:it came from. Well, my origin name for park, because I'm married
Speaker:to a park, my married name is Puck. But people can't say
Speaker:Puck. And so there's a silent r in there, so everybody says
Speaker:park. So you should have named one of your kids hockey, hockey
Speaker:puck. I was gonna call him a cineboyne or Saint
Speaker:Vettel puck. Anyway, we are
Speaker:getting off topic. We digress. So we are talking about our episode, the
Speaker:courage to stay, how to be present in the midst of suffering.
Speaker:Emily shared some stories and insights that she had, some people that she
Speaker:met. So what has sat with you since having that
Speaker:conversation with Emily, Wendy? Yeah. I really enjoyed
Speaker:having that conversation with Emily. And as you get to
Speaker:know Emily like I've been able to do over these last couple years,
Speaker:there's such genuine heart behind what she's saying. She's not
Speaker:coming into this saying that look at me. I'm I'm caring for the
Speaker:community. She genuinely carries that calling, that heart,
Speaker:that inclination, almost that magnetic force
Speaker:into the community. She just can't help herself. And so that is
Speaker:inspiring to see people like that. It it makes me think,
Speaker:Johan, why is it that some people are gravitationally
Speaker:just that Jesus' heart towards community and to other people
Speaker:that people might otherwise marginalize or walk
Speaker:away from in fear, and what makes other people
Speaker:hesitate, almost the opposite magnetic reaction to
Speaker:caring for community? What makes people inclined to it, and
Speaker:what makes people repel? Well, that was one of the questions
Speaker:I had when Emily was speaking because she said, you have
Speaker:to want to care. And my question was, okay. How do
Speaker:you get to want to care? How do you get to that point? How do
Speaker:you cross that chasm from being indifferent, which this whole
Speaker:series is about? We're we're in the cost of indifference series. How do you get
Speaker:from being indifferent to wanting to care,
Speaker:to not wanting to be indifferent? Well, I think it could be
Speaker:different for different people, different personalities, introverts, extroverts.
Speaker:I can only speak from my own experience and from what I've seen is
Speaker:that when I have been radically cared for by
Speaker:others and I've allowed other people to care for me, it
Speaker:changes my outlook on others as well. It takes out that hesitation, but
Speaker:I have to be willing to be receiving care. And for
Speaker:myself, it was going overseas, living in Central And
Speaker:South America, doing my school, and I was doing some church planting community development
Speaker:stuff. But I also I was there to support, but I was there to
Speaker:learn and to I needed help from my community. I needed my
Speaker:village. And so when I come back now, for
Speaker:me, that was a shift for me. I was more, like,
Speaker:otherwise not outward looking. But now when I see newcomers
Speaker:here in Canada and students, and I was that foreign student in another
Speaker:land, I was that person speaking a different language and fumbling
Speaker:around. And there's a different compassion that I can't make up
Speaker:because you can identify. And and granted, all our stories are
Speaker:different. I can't identify with people going through
Speaker:homelessness or mental health, but I have been vulnerable
Speaker:myself, and I have needed help. And so I feel, like,
Speaker:for me, that has been a shift that continues to challenge me
Speaker:that I need to continue to receive help as much as be
Speaker:there for others, to be human with others for me. I what
Speaker:has helped you be more present with others?
Speaker:Well, I almost wanna take it back to episode three we had with Troy where
Speaker:we really talked about that curiosity factor. Now I shared this
Speaker:in the introduction of Emily's episode, but just to bring it
Speaker:back, this was a long time ago when I was in a previous church.
Speaker:They have an inner city prayer room where where we do worship and
Speaker:feed the poor and the homeless that would come in as well. So
Speaker:I was going in there to lead worship, you know, to do my my thing
Speaker:and serve that way. But there is still a disconnect
Speaker:with those that were in the room. Mhmm. So after going there for a long
Speaker:enough time, you I think the curiosity got to me is, like, you
Speaker:know what? This is actually boring just to
Speaker:serve in this way and not actually connect with anyone. So I began sitting
Speaker:at the tables with them and asking what their stories are because I was
Speaker:getting bored. And I think that curiosity if you're curious
Speaker:enough, everybody has a story, and they have a story to tell.
Speaker:And quite often, it's interesting, and it'll blow you away if you if you actually
Speaker:dig deep. So, again, going back to episode three, it's that
Speaker:curiosity, I think. I don't know. Sometimes, I think we need to allow ourselves
Speaker:to get bored so that we can get curious again. And we
Speaker:have to ask ourselves, if this is an internal thing that each one of us
Speaker:has to do some reflection or maybe in a a small group of of
Speaker:people we trust, is what is killing my curiosity?
Speaker:What is stopping me from being curious? So if I'm not curious, that should
Speaker:be an alarm on our dashboard. Why am I so curious
Speaker:about other people? Not in a nosy kind of way. We're not talking about that,
Speaker:but that inclination, that magnetic inclination towards other.
Speaker:Because if God has really is who he says he is
Speaker:and has created us who he says we are, created in the image
Speaker:of God for community in relationship with others and
Speaker:created for community, why aren't we curious
Speaker:about others? Why aren't we magnetically leaning in? What is
Speaker:that interference, that barrier that's preventing us
Speaker:from naturally being drawn into, the lives of
Speaker:others that is mutually flourishing.
Speaker:I think if we looked closely, fear would be one
Speaker:of the top things in a lot of people's list, and it might look different
Speaker:for different people. But if we are held back
Speaker:by fear, that is something that we can work on,
Speaker:that God can work on if we let him. Like, perfect love casts out fear.
Speaker:God is love. So so what is it internally that I need to
Speaker:do some checks on so that I
Speaker:have a natural, not a contrived, oh, I I
Speaker:should do this. I should help the homeless because, that's what a good
Speaker:Christian should do. People can suss you out. Oh my
Speaker:goodness. They they smell the fear. Right? But what
Speaker:can we do to address those curiosity killers?
Speaker:Yeah. I think it's getting out of our comfort zones again. I don't know
Speaker:about you, but I don't wanna live a boring life that's just
Speaker:sheltered and living in fear and not letting others in
Speaker:because we were amazed for so much more than that. And,
Speaker:like, that's why we're podcasting. We love stories, and
Speaker:we think stories are transformational. When you hear them, you get to understand
Speaker:other perspectives. It makes you think. And I think when
Speaker:we shelter ourselves from that, we're just gonna die
Speaker:inside. Like, I don't know. Yeah. Well, I think
Speaker:we know the right answer is that we don't want a boring life, that we
Speaker:look to the person that's living the life of adventure, that is brave, that
Speaker:is taking the stage, that is taking a stand, that is doing the brave thing,
Speaker:and we look at them like, wow. That's so great. I wanna do that. But
Speaker:in actuality, in praxis, we're taking the cheap seats.
Speaker:We don't actually want to. We aspire to do something. It's wishful
Speaker:thinking, but are we taking the steps to do it? And we think, oh, that
Speaker:chasm from here to there to be like Emily, I could never be
Speaker:like her, and good on you. We we should all be ourselves. But that
Speaker:curiosity to lean in and to do something different, it it's
Speaker:exactly what you were saying, Johan. I think it's all that sense of
Speaker:control, and there is a thing that we need to pay attention to on our
Speaker:dashboard, that lordship. We might love
Speaker:God in concepts, but are we letting him to be the lord of
Speaker:our life? Are we releasing that control, not my will, but
Speaker:yours? Even Jesus prayed that prayer. Can we truly
Speaker:abandon our sense of control and sovereignty of our
Speaker:own life to say, lord, I trust you that you want
Speaker:what's good for my life. You want what's good for that person's life. You are
Speaker:in this, and I'm gonna trust you. And that's when we
Speaker:see growth. That's when we we become alive. And that's why it's
Speaker:better to give than to receive. That's why when we serve
Speaker:people a a glass of water or visit them in prison, we meet Jesus
Speaker:in those times. So it's not about philanthropy. It's in those
Speaker:moments we experience God. But we often take the cheap seats
Speaker:and sing hallelujah from the cheap seats rather than getting
Speaker:into the the real game, and that's where the
Speaker:adventure begins.
Speaker:And if we're not growing, we are actually taking
Speaker:steps back. There's no being stagnant in this. You can't just sit still.
Speaker:That's kind of been a motto of of mine. Like, am I growing in any
Speaker:areas? And if I'm not, I'm probably just I'm probably
Speaker:losing ground and gaining ground. Yeah. I think about looking at a a tree
Speaker:that's been cut in half. And as someone that's curious,
Speaker:I I like, I'll look at those rings and some of them are a lot
Speaker:bigger than others and some look darker. And I'm like, wonder what happened
Speaker:that year. Yeah. It's like, wow, there's a lot of growth in this year and
Speaker:and the next year there's hardly any, but it's still growing.
Speaker:And, eventually, that tree stopped growing and it got cut down. So it's
Speaker:like you you gotta go through those hard years, and there's gonna be good
Speaker:years. But as long as you're taking those steps forward, you're not gonna get
Speaker:cut down. Yeah. Taking those risks. I think, we need
Speaker:to celebrate risk taking and that not everything has to be a
Speaker:happy ever ending, has to have this salvation
Speaker:story or has to have a we baptize Wayne,
Speaker:type of story. It ended in a tragedy. However, there's
Speaker:there's a peace there that just smells like heaven.
Speaker:Right? Not to glorify tragedy,
Speaker:but god enters into those moments still.
Speaker:And I think also another curiosity killer would be that
Speaker:comparison. Well, that person is doing it like this, or this
Speaker:person is doing that, and we we stagnate
Speaker:ourselves by comparison. And and each one of us has been
Speaker:uniquely created by god's image. And what is daring for you,
Speaker:Johan, to put yourself out there might look different than it is for
Speaker:me. But I can testify that in my life, it's those
Speaker:times that god has interrupted me with people that I naturally wouldn't
Speaker:sit and have coffee with that haven't,
Speaker:like, dissuaded me from the faith even though they aren't people of faith
Speaker:or have a very different lifestyle than mine. But it's
Speaker:actually challenged my theology. It's
Speaker:challenged my thinking, and I would say it's helping me
Speaker:refine who I am and become more secure in Christ that
Speaker:in those moments I can trust God. I can give an example.
Speaker:Many years ago, I was at Downtown Winnipeg
Speaker:in Osborne Village, and I was sitting at a bus stop
Speaker:just waiting for a bus to to come through.
Speaker:And, there was many buses coming by, and out of one
Speaker:bus came a big crowd of people. I wasn't paying attention or anything.
Speaker:But then I was approached by one young, gentleman and
Speaker:saying, excuse me. Can I talk to you? And I looked up, and I'm
Speaker:like, okay. Sure. I don't know who you are, but, he
Speaker:introduced himself. He's like, I got off the bus, and I saw a light you
Speaker:were filled with light, and I need to know why. And and so I
Speaker:said, well, why don't we have have coffee? And
Speaker:and he happened to be a white witch. And I'm like, I'm a prayer
Speaker:girl, Mennonite rays, bubble wrapped as it comes. I didn't know
Speaker:the first thing about white witches, but we had this
Speaker:great encounter. I learned about him. He learned about me. We
Speaker:have this exchange that I believe is god
Speaker:sedential. It's actually helped give me more empathy
Speaker:and more compassion and and more strategic prayer for
Speaker:people were living and worshiping in the old cult
Speaker:in a way that otherwise I would have just said, he's bad. I could
Speaker:stay away from him to let's have a conversation. And it
Speaker:it's helped me. I believe God used that. I didn't convert him.
Speaker:I didn't convince him about Jesus, but he saw the light of Christ
Speaker:within me. And it wasn't because I was, like, polishing my halo there
Speaker:either. But I needed that to say, you know what? This
Speaker:person is made in the image of God, and there's a a
Speaker:yearning for light. And it's given me more compassion
Speaker:to not be so judgmental, to withhold my judgment that each person
Speaker:is on a journey. Have you had any experiences that you were pushed out of
Speaker:your comfort zone and yet God used that very
Speaker:encounter, that person to minister to you. I can't think
Speaker:of any examples. Right now, I'm sure, like, I know
Speaker:there probably are, but your story reminds me this
Speaker:is kind of a sidebar, but I heard a guy speaking one time, and
Speaker:he would minister to those marginalized, those in the occult,
Speaker:actually, that the church wouldn't touch. And they'd have, like, these
Speaker:big club gatherings where they're they're clubbing, doing drugs,
Speaker:and all these other things. So he decided, you know what? I'm gonna go right
Speaker:into these neighborhoods, and I'm gonna and I'm gonna do a rave.
Speaker:I'm gonna I'm gonna create a club. And he called it
Speaker:Club Satan. Wow. So so but it it
Speaker:brought all these people in, and right in the middle of of
Speaker:this rave and this club, they actually had a
Speaker:representation, some sort of statue of Satan, and they
Speaker:had clubs where people can literally club Satan in their
Speaker:Oh, I didn't know where this was going. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker:Anyway, I thought it was hilarious. And he preached the gospel, of course, and people
Speaker:were getting saved. So Wow. Just kind of a play on words to
Speaker:get people in the door. Right?
Speaker:I didn't I didn't do that. But No. But
Speaker:I think the point is proximity matters. Yeah. And
Speaker:people like, we shouldn't beat ourselves up for not, like,
Speaker:naturally being inclined to to be with people that don't look
Speaker:like us, talk like us, think like us. That's a natural inclination.
Speaker:So I think people can rid themselves of that shame. We're just
Speaker:naturally predisposed to do that. However,
Speaker:proximity does matter. As we we see the human in other
Speaker:people and understand our own humanness that we haven't arrived yet.
Speaker:Right? We have Jesus. He's arrived, but but we're still on this
Speaker:journey. But as we get in human to human and we see the
Speaker:humanity in each other and the dei, the the
Speaker:image bearing properties of each other in each other, it's
Speaker:really hard to hate somebody when we're breaking bread
Speaker:together. It's really hard to,
Speaker:say, like, inflammatory words like what goes on in
Speaker:social media when we're willing to
Speaker:mutually sit down together and spend time together
Speaker:and listen. Listening is such a gift. We it doesn't mean we have to
Speaker:correct them, and we're not gonna get cooties for them letting words out of their
Speaker:mouth that doesn't resonate with me. That's not who I am. It's a
Speaker:insecurity issue if we feel like we can't be in proximity. We might
Speaker:have to even think of our theology. Do we think God is that
Speaker:weak that when we're in the presence of others that look different than us, think
Speaker:different than us, have different beliefs and values, that
Speaker:our God isn't strong enough to hold us in those
Speaker:spaces? We need to check how big our god really
Speaker:is. In getting dirty, I think that's again,
Speaker:there's a fear thing there. And I don't know about you, but I I've actually
Speaker:heard some people use the reference in scripture where it
Speaker:says, the poor, you will always have among you. Yeah. They'll use that as an
Speaker:excuse not to actually help the poor, not to get their hands dirty,
Speaker:saying, well, the poor are always gonna be there. So it's like let's let's
Speaker:bring it into context again. This is Jesus. He's getting
Speaker:the perfume poured out on his feet, and his disciples are complaining saying,
Speaker:oh, you could have given money to the poor instead of wasting all that.
Speaker:But Jesus was actually quoting something in Deuteronomy, where it says, the
Speaker:poor you will always have with you in
Speaker:the land. Therefore, I command you, you shall open wide your hand to your brother,
Speaker:to the needy, and to the poor in your land. So it's like Yes.
Speaker:And but even in Jesus' context, I think he's actually
Speaker:speaking to the opposite of what people are using that that as an
Speaker:excuse for because it's the generosity piece. It's
Speaker:the pouring out of of your wealth, and it's the
Speaker:action of doing something. Yeah. We could look at the flip side and say
Speaker:you will always have opportunity to find Jesus. You will always have
Speaker:opportunity to share the love of Jesus and give the hope for
Speaker:glory all around you. It'll never run dry.
Speaker:If we could just flip that. I love the way you're you're looking at it,
Speaker:Johan. He's advocating for generosity. It's like, no. This one's
Speaker:been generous with me by pouring out the perfume on my feet. And then Jesus
Speaker:goes in in another passage, and he says, when I was sick and in prison,
Speaker:when I when I was hungry, you fed me. So it's like when you're
Speaker:doing these things unto Jesus, when you're pouring out that expensive perfume, when you are
Speaker:feeding the needy, when you are visiting those in prison, you are doing it
Speaker:unto Jesus. You're pouring out that perfume on his feet. And not like
Speaker:a checklist. Oh, we should do these things so we can that is our
Speaker:passageway to heaven. That is our passageway to be,
Speaker:closer to Jesus. This is just a natural thing.
Speaker:This is who we are. This is the DNA of the church. But the church
Speaker:is so much more than charity and philanthropy and just giving and doing.
Speaker:It's about being in solidarity with other people, walking
Speaker:alongside, side, not above other people to be with them in
Speaker:solidarity. We are always invited in solidarity
Speaker:with Christ in these places. These are sacred places.
Speaker:And and I think, Johan, different people will be
Speaker:inclined, will see things in different ways,
Speaker:will catch their attention. I I believe that there's something very important
Speaker:here. If somebody's always saying, pastor, we gotta
Speaker:do something about homelessness, Chances are they might be
Speaker:called to that because they they're having eyes to see or their eyes are being
Speaker:opened to that. Or we gotta do something about
Speaker:children and domestic violence. Well, chances are you're
Speaker:being invited, whether that's in a direct response of
Speaker:inviting people to your home or in a professional way or just
Speaker:philanthropy to support those who are professionally supporting these
Speaker:areas. Pay attention to the things that irk us,
Speaker:because those might be the places that invite us, to be
Speaker:present in in a radical way. Wanna take it a step
Speaker:further. I believe this is actually what the culture of the church is meant to
Speaker:be. Like, we shouldn't even have to go to our pastors and say, I think
Speaker:we need to do something about the poor. Because, like, if you look in Acts,
Speaker:we've talked about this in our Neighbour Up, series, which our
Speaker:small group series, which if our listeners are interested in that, we developed
Speaker:a I'm so excited about that, Yohan. Course. We're still developing it.
Speaker:Check it out. Neighbor Up. You can go to cureimpact.ca to get some
Speaker:details or message us. But anyway, we talk about it in Acts
Speaker:where God's grace was so powerfully at work that there were
Speaker:no needy persons among them. Yeah. So, like, they were giving
Speaker:money, and they were putting their houses up for sale. And it was just a
Speaker:cultural church thing where there were no needy among them
Speaker:because this is what the church was meant to be. Well and
Speaker:and you're pushing on a big button there right now, a flashing button
Speaker:in our nation of individualism, and that
Speaker:will rub us the wrong way when it cut it sounds cute,
Speaker:and it sounds right. It is right. I agree with you, Johan. But what you're
Speaker:pressing there is a button of individual, I have my boundaries. I
Speaker:have my things. If people would only work harder, I've
Speaker:deserved this, or I need to not, like, I have to be
Speaker:careful on my own battery reserve, like, how much energy I
Speaker:have. And some of that is true, and that's why it's so easy to press
Speaker:that button. But you're talking about a whole another button that's a
Speaker:little bit more sacrificial. It's not the big
Speaker:individualistic button. It's community button. And it's
Speaker:a lot easier said than done, But it sure is beautiful and tastes
Speaker:like heaven when we go there. I think that's a good
Speaker:place to stop. But before we do, do you have a challenge for the
Speaker:listeners this week? Well, in addition to what Emily
Speaker:challenged us with is, I would say, do some self
Speaker:reflection. Reflect on the things that irk
Speaker:you in society, the things around you.
Speaker:Reflect on also the things that you notice that you
Speaker:might elbow your partner or your friends or your church, and they
Speaker:might not even have paid attention to it the same way. Pay attention to the
Speaker:things in the news that grab your attention, not just in the things that's
Speaker:satiated, like, that that we just get kind of sensationalized and sucked into.
Speaker:But But but those little pieces, those curiosity, what makes you
Speaker:curious? Pay attention to that and allow god
Speaker:to be the lord over that and say, god, what do I need to
Speaker:know? I can guarantee you he will show you.
Speaker:He's he's longing for you to draw near to him through
Speaker:people around you, and your adventure is
Speaker:just so close, closer than you think. But we have
Speaker:to dare to trust God with those things. So pay attention to those
Speaker:things and submit them to Christ and say, god,
Speaker:what do you want with this? And let me know what he tells
Speaker:you. I've I've heard some wild things, and god has never
Speaker:let us down. That's great. Now it's time for
Speaker:Care lingo. Alright, Wendy. Care lingo
Speaker:this week. This is a suitable one for today.
Speaker:Radical hospitality. Now we're gonna flip the tables a little bit
Speaker:here, do something a bit different, and I'm gonna get you to give me a
Speaker:wrong definition. Okay. Okay. Radical hospitality.
Speaker:First thing that comes to mind is something that's totally rad. They're in their
Speaker:eighties outfits. They're they're they're tie dye, and they've got a big ghetto
Speaker:blaster on their shoulder. And when I ring the doorbell, they come up and they
Speaker:have music blasting and a bandana around their hair.
Speaker:They've got a mullet. K. I'm basically describing the next current
Speaker:generation. We're going back there. Right? But, they're totally radical. They
Speaker:say, yo, come on in, dude. Come into my
Speaker:house. So the Ninja Turtles being hospitality Yeah.
Speaker:Oriented sort of thing. Yeah. The Ninja Turtles. It's not just, you
Speaker:know, giving away your Netflix account to someone else being extra
Speaker:hospitable. Well, I do that. Is that is that bad? Oh, don't say it out
Speaker:loud. They might find you. Oh, the things we've done in radical
Speaker:hospitality. Things go wild. I give Wi Fi passwords so that kids
Speaker:off the street are who are running from gangs have a safe place. I've done
Speaker:that. True story. You just gotta put some benches outside your door so they are
Speaker:placed at Oakgate. That's how we that's how we keep them safe, and
Speaker:they they find home. Some great examples of radical hospitality
Speaker:from Wendy, because radical hospitality goes beyond politeness.
Speaker:It's it's that open handedness, the open handed way of living
Speaker:that makes people feel like they belong. It's not just about inviting
Speaker:people in. It's about putting benches outside your door and
Speaker:giving Wi Fi. It's creating those spaces where they feel like
Speaker:they're seen and valued. So I'm not sure if you have your
Speaker:windows closed when they're sitting outside, but make sure they're seen and valued, Wendy. That's
Speaker:real hospitality there. Alright. So there's radical hospitality.
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